Minnesota Fishing: Hot Topics and Debatable IssuesThis forum is to discuss issues surrounding fishing in the great State of Minnesota. Please keep the debates civil. Personal attacks, threats and name-calling are not allowed. Name: mlke Debatable_Issuesthis year 04 was the worst winter in years that the icefishing in minn wasnt worth fishing to much baitfish in all thelakes does anyone agree Name: mlke Debatable_Issuesthis year 04 was the worst winter in years that the icefishing in minn wasnt worth fishing to much baitfish in all thelakes does anyone agree Name: Zack H Debatable_IssuesHey has anyone outthere fished Lotus lake in Chanhassen? Name: beerun Debatable_Issueswell as most people know taking away fishing rights dont hurt the state only the family and not the person that likes fish.[god gives it to us not the state]we live in a free country i thought. gulty tell proven otherwise.NOW LETS TAKE BACK OUR RIGHTS.yha i know you say a fish here a deer ther then it all gone. some of us do make a diffrence maybe we should use some of the [D.U.I] money its all for you to say. minnesota no fun alowed O YAH YOU NEED A LICENSE. Name: Mark Lawrence Debatable_IssuesThe SS# issue for punishing dead beats is all wrong. What you should do is validate the persons license only if they have their children with them while fishing. Name: edwin Debatable_Issueswhere the hot spot for fishing on the mn rivers Name: HARD WATER Debatable_Issuesdave what i meant was the dead beat dads will go fishing and not buy a lic. and the mn dnr will get the fine money if they get chougt and not the kids. so i dont see the need to give my ssn# to the dnr. I am not a dead beat dad!!have never been and never will. Name: Uncle Dave Debatable_IssuesYes, the "Lazy" fisherman will fish anyway, but when they get caught there will be a price to pay! No different tha ever. there is always a percentage of people who fish illegally (either keeping fish out of season, fishing w/o a license, keeping over limits, fishig for a species not currently in season (even if you are so kind as to throw them back-Many will die), etc. So for the deadbeats who don't wanna pay, I'm just happy I'm not paying for yourn kids!!!!!!! Name: HARD WATER Debatable_Issueswhats going to stop all the lazy people if they dont have a fishing lic. they are going to fish anyway ???? Name: Austin Debatable_IssuesI heard the Red Lake Band of Chippewa was considering opening Lower Red Lake for sport-fishing to all anglers, what do you think? Name: Uncle Dave Debatable_IssuesAbout the state collecting your SS# when buying a hunting or fishing license to not allow deadbeat parents to have the priviledge of hunting or fishing because you are behind: I agree it's absolutely not the place of some 16 year old Gander Mountain employee to tell an adult they aren't allowed a license because they are behind in payments. What a joke! But, by the same token I am all for making life for these people as tough as possible. I'm tired of paying for everyone else's kids because they won't! That also is a joke! I have chosen not to have kids and am tired of hearing about all of these deadbeats (usually fathers) who won't fulfill their obligation to their child (or children). This isn't the best idea I've ever heard, it's kind of like the government asking your mailman to quit delivering your mail until you pay your unpaid parking tickets, but again, if this will trigger some stiff to pay for his own kid and not me I'm all for it! The thing that does scare me is the other things they could use the info for (who owns a gun or bow, what kind of gun, etc). This just gives fuel to the tree huggers and PETA freaks. I guess I'm torn between the deadbeats and the tree huggers! Name: Dennis G Debatable_IssuesGreetings. I'm trying to find the website for catfishing in the Minnesota River. It's the one that Dark30 (I think)posts on. I deleted it from my bookmarks several months ago and now I can't find it. I'm looking to fish the Carver and Chaska areas of the river. Thanks. D.G. Name: Raymond Debatable_IssuesI am sad to see that we have to give our SSN because they are to lazy to after these LOSER DEAD BEAT FATHERS themselves. Seems that they want us to do the work for them. Name: wildman Debatable_Issuesthe reason they are getting your s.s.# is so they can make more money! do you think all the money people send in to the state makes it to the person they are supposed to pay for child support. no!! they take a chunk of it every month, and with all the cuts the state is making they have to do something to fill their pockets. this is just the newest form of greed, you know like charging for licence plates, then comming up with the idea of tabbs little stickers to buy every year,to drain you like a spunge!! tell me i am wrong!!!!!!!!!!! Name: PETE Debatable_IssuesWELL IT'S THE DUMBEST THING YET. SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE TOO MANY LAZY PEOPLE IN OFFICE. THAT ARE JUST PASSING THEIR WORK OFF ONTO OTHERS AND IT ENDED UP IN THE HANDS OF SOME PRO RIGHTS ACTIVEST. NOW I SUPPOSE I'LL HAVE TO JOIN A NATIONAL FISHING ASSOCIATION IN ORDER TO SAVE MY RIGHT AS I DID TO SAVE MY RIGHTS TO OWN A FIREARM. NEXT THING YOU KNOW YOU'LL HAVE TO REGISTER YOURE FISHING POLE. JUST SO THEY CAN COME AND GET IT FROM YOURE HOUSE. JUST WHO IN THE HELL IS LOOKING AT OUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER. WHERE IS THE SECURITY FOR OUR RIGHTS AS AMERICANS AND OUR FREEDOM. IT BOTHERS ME WHEN SOME DAM TREE HUGHER GETS IN TO OFFICE. Name: ED D Debatable_IssuesTHE STATE OF MINNESOTA IS GOING TO START COLLECTING SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS WHEN YOU BUY YOUR HUNTING AND FISHING LICENSES IN ORDER TO CATCH PARENTS WHO DON'T PAY CHILD SUPPORT. IS ANYONE ELSE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS? I MEAN, SHOULDN'T THE COURTS AND PROPER LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIALS WHOM WE PAY OUTRAGEOUS TAXES FOR TAKE CARE OF THIS? I CAN SEE THIS HEADING TO NOT BEING ALLOWED TO FISH OR HUNT BECAUSE OF "POOR" CREDIT LIKE INSURANCE PREMEUMS AND AIRLINE TICKETS. I THINK THE MN. DNR SHOULD FOCUS IT'S TIME AND EFFORTS ON MANAGING OUR RESOURSES NOT CATCHING DEAD-BEAT PARENTS Name: HARD WATER Debatable_IssuesI think the use of lead sinkers should be around for many years too come. Ihave about 10 lbs of them what am I going to do with them?.I cant just dump them out can I?. Name: HARD WATER Debatable_IssuesI think the use of lead sinkers should be around for many years too come. Ihave about 10 lbs of them what am I going to do with them?.I cant just dump them out can I?. Name: Catfood Debatable_IssuesGood point HawgEye about the pictures and C&R. But I don't think rolfe was talking about banning the electronics. The idea of experemental lakes sounds like a good idea. If your interested there are lakes in state parks that prohibit snomobiles, gas augers, etc., but i'm not sure about fish finders and such. You would have to look that up. Name: HawgEye Debatable_IssuesI have read some ridiculous posts in my life, but please Rolf you are wary off base on your post. Last I recall, a GPS or sonar never put a single fish in my boat, I did. The thing you forgot to mention is that the generation before mine, meaning yours, fished these lakes to death. If you doubt me then go look in any fishing lodge that is older than 10 years and look at the pictures on the walls of the stringers of huge breeding female walleyes taken with total disregard of the consequences. Your generation had the luxury of fishing in abundant fish populations, my generation does not. Thank god the DNR has an active role in these fisheries. I hope they restrict catches further and impose very strict slot limits. I fish because I truly enjoy being outdoors with friends. We release virtually every fish we catch. 20 years ago were you doing that? I would be willing to bet you didn’t Some lakes I fish I have never kept a single fish, and never will. Those lakes are just too much fun the way they are and should stay that way. The problem as I have seen it is uneducated fisherman, locals on the lake who figure they can do whatever they want because they live there, and the very few who break the law knowingly. Lets face the facts - If you can afford $2,000 worth of fishing electronics then you probably care enough to practice conservation, are educated enough to catch and release, and are not slaughtering fish populations. And that’s all I have to say about that. Name: brian Debatable_Issuesthe use of high tech gagets allow us to travel to new bodies of water and still have some success locating fish. with out depth finders & gps we would have to cover a lot more water. i don't have time for that. Name: scott holk Debatable_Issuesrolphe, sorry, but want to comment some more on your submission. i think there isn't anything wrong with the use of gps. sure you can mark a hot fishing spot, but if you fish lakes like lake of the woods, you need that gps, just for safety. my buddy and i, two winters ago, got caught in a white-out on our snowmobiles after an afternoon of fishing. we were six miles from shore, and when it is nice out, the shoreline is just a little strip on the horizon, in the snow or fog every direction looks the same. after that day, i refuse to go out without my gps. Name: scott holk Debatable_Issuesrolph, i agree with some of what you are saying. quite frankly, i don't think it all that realistic, simply because of the lack of enforcement officers around minnesota. they have to cover such big areas, and have to watch for so much already, i find it hard to believe they could dedicate themselves to checking for locators and such on certain lakes, besides the ignorance of many of the fisherpeople around. half the time they don't even know what lake they are on. i had a friend that i fished with all last year, and just found out that he thought the limit on walleyes was 3! and he fishes quite a bit, what about the flocks of "summer folk" that make their way to our area every year with a lot less fishing knowledge? i think we need to increase the number of enforcement officers, but with budgets and the like, it is not a realistic goal either. i have yet to use much of the high tech tools out there, but do rely on my gps, gas auger, and atv. but it always amazing some of my friends that i can go out and be successful in harvesting fish, without the rest of the stuff. i still paddle my john boat out onto the lake and catch walleyes and the like. nothing annoys my buddies more than when they ask something like, "how deep of water were you in?" and i say, "i am not sure, about 12 feet?" i mean how in the hell can someone catch fish without graphing them and knowing the depth and water temp, etc??? all i tell them is that people for thousands of years did without that crap and still caught fish, and so can i. i may not be as successful as someone with a vexilar sitting next to me catching crappies that are suspended, but i will still catch some, and have some pride in knowing i did it with my skills as a fisherman, not any old chap that can make their bait meet the fish on the vexi. Name: Rolfe Debatable_IssuesAt age 50, I've been fishing for some time. And I have to say that I have been the beneficiary of the advancement in tackle, technique, and technology. I have the locators, gps, books and seminar tapes, boats, gas augers and portable fishhouses. These items have helped me, along with countless others, increase the odds and take of fish. I've been at it long enough to see the odds go up for those who employ at least some of the gadgets. But I've been at it long enough to see the quality of the fish taken decline, and the diminishment of the overall experience inspite of, and perhaps because of the gadgets, and the shear increase in the numbers of people harvesting this limited resource using many of these tools. I fondly remember as a kid, the numbers of nice sunnies and crappies that I could take even in the winter with a single hook, black dacron line, a hole opened with a spud, and God Forbid, no fish locators! "Where are they bitin?" one would ask. "Off the point and two and half arm lengths down." might be the reply. Good enough! While the public, who's collective mindset driven by the natural desire for fishing success and in a large part by intensive marketing by gadget manufacturers and distributers, would never support banning the use of locators and the like, it would be interesting to see an substancial increase in experimental Heritage Lakes, where the fishing style and substance would be limited to the methods and means commonly used prior to the introduction of the locators and gps units at the very least, and perhaps including the banning of outboards and snowmobiles. Reasonable exemptions or variences would probaly have to be made to riparian homeowners. Minnesota has had much success with other more Primitive game havest schemes such as the Muzzleloader and Archery seasons and the exclusion of motorized craft in many of the BWCA lakes and streams. What would be the harm in trying to enhance the fishing experience, both quantitative and qualitative, by going back to the future on a smattering of lakes here and there statewide to the vast majority of Minnesota Citezens could find a lake near their homes where they could experience fishing the way it used to be, at a slower and quieter pace, where gamefish have not been habituated to the sound of motors and transducers, and where there is an equality by design, for all who choose to fish employ more primitive methods, whether the fisherman be rich or poor.
Name: scott Debatable_Issuesi was just reading the dnr info pamphlet for boundary waters fishing. how the hell does the dnr even imagine the numbers they come up with for harvest tonnage? they say they have a target harvest of say 275000 pounds of walleye, and that there was 395000 pounds harvested last year!! did they stop every fisherman who was on the lake at every landing on lake of the woods for the whole year?? how ridiculous it is that they publish these numbers and pay people to come up with these numbers when the money from license sales, etc could go to much more important issues with wildlife. plus they only monitor one portion of the lake, what about the tonnage harvested in manitoba and ontario? what a joke. Name: Paul Debatable_IssuesI don't feel that the lead sinker ban is a necessity at this point, however, I do support using a non-toxic alternative. If I remember correctly, this bill was introduced by a legislator from Duluth who claimed that the motivation behind the legislation was to protect our loon population. I believe the statement was made that the loon population was in jeopardy due to lead poisoning. Based on that statement, I can't help but feel that there is a hidden adjenda here. Loons do not feed on the bottom of lakes. They eat fish, and small ones at that. A loon would have to ingest the lead from the fish it eats or from an anglers bait. While lead poisoning in loons is a possibility, and may cause the demise of a number of birds, I do not feel that legislating a change in the fishing regulations is necessary. This is a DNR issue not a legislative one. (The DNR reports that the loon population is healthy and is increasing.) To legislate such a sweeping change in the fishing industry based on false assumptions would be wrong! Name: burnsville high school Debatable_IssuesHow do you guys feel about the new bill that is probibitting lead sinkers in all the lakes. Please give us some of your Thoughts on it. Name: iceman Debatable_Issueshotrod yes this is normal. it all depends on the lake your fishing also. i've caught a 100 of them off of tipups i will usualy cathch them on deep reefs, with a sucker minnow. they sure do zip that line out!! Name: Hot Rod Debatable_IssuesNever written anything on one of these but have to agree on the sad state of ice fishin' this winter! I have been going down to some small lakes in northwest Wisc and trying to get some eyes and crappies(No Luck)but I cant complain because I did catch 4 Largemouth over 3 lbs on tip ups! Is this normal? Name: Hot Rod Debatable_IssuesNever written anything on one of these but have to agree on the sad state of ice fishin' this winter! I have been going down to some small lakes in northwest Wisc and trying to get some eyes and crappies(No Luck)but I cant complain because I did catch 4 Largemouth over 3 lbs on tip ups! Is this normal? Name: Hot Rod Debatable_IssuesNever written anything on one of these but have to agree on the sad state of ice fishin' this winter! I have been going down to some small lakes in northwest Wisc and trying to get some eyes and crappies(No Luck)but I cant complain because I did catch 4 Largemouth over 3 lbs on tip ups! Is this normal? Name: Calico Kid Debatable_IssuesSully, its kinda hard to give info to a guy if you dont know em. Iread your entry in the Pipestem page about the guy dying.He was my boss. Good guy, loved to fish the Pipe,He was from Mhd. by the way. Years ago I fished Melissa out in the middle, in thirty five feet and absolutely knocked the crappies.I never logged that spot(exact) into the old brain stem so I never went back havent you done good on Pipestem yet every time we go we kill em,all big, no throwbacks.Were going Thurs. Feedback if you can Name: Cliff Debatable_IssuesHi Sulley I know how you feel about not caching fish, or what lake to go to. You are lucky, I think because you have more lakes within 50 miles of where you live than we have in the whole state. We have to go a minimum of 70 miles to find lake withfish. We had a lot of Pheasants a few years ago, but 2 hard Winters took a lot of them. I fished down there over New Years and we caught more fish in 3 days ice fishing, than I caught ice fishing here in the last 20 years. Cliff Name: sully Debatable_IssuesWhat has happened to ice fishing in MN I remember when I was little my dad would take me out and we would catch so many crappies and in the last few years when we have gone out in MN it was Butt. Is it getting fished out or what, but we ice fish ND and we do good most of the time. In MN in the summer time we do ok alot better than we would in the winter but it still isnt how i remember it when i was little. I would like to put my perminent in MN but where ever I have tied that it is really Butt.I had it out on Melissa a couple of years ago and we were lucky to get 1 walleye. I have friends in school that are always wanting me to take them ice fishing but I dont really know if thhere is anywhere i can take them thats close to home. If anyone would be willing to let me know if there is some good fishing lake close to Moorhead please let me know where. |
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